U.S. producers are shoveling billions of dollars into new oil projects this year, even despite the price of oil being devastatingly cheap.
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In this clip fromIndustry Focus: Energy, Motley Fool analystsSean O'Reilly and Taylor Muckerman talk about a few energy companies that tend to do great even when the price of oil is in the gutter.
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Sean O'Reilly:Any companies you are interested in these days?I know you like the midstream because you don't know... well, really,nobody knows --
Taylor Muckerman:I mean, if the U.S. is going to produce 1 million more barrels per dayin the next couple years, and then yeah, the pipelines are going to be bursting at the seams.
O'Reilly:I've written about the pipelines a bunch, too. The thing thatI like about them is they're one of the closer things you can get to a monopoly these days.
Muckerman:Yeah.Kinder Morgan(NYSE: KMI) is trying to build a 430-mile pipeline fornatural gas from the Permian Basin to theGulf Coast.Enbridgejustcompleted their merger withSpectra Energy, so now it's very well hedged, oil versus natural gas: Spectra being more natural gas, Enbridge being more oil-heavy. Those are thebehemoths. So,chances are, they're going to get a piece of the pie.
O'Reilly:Did we ever get to talk about that $4.5 billion pipeline that Kinder Morgan is building up there for the oil sands to get it tothe West Coast, up there by Seattle?
Muckerman:I think we did. It's anexpansion of their existing pipeline.
O'Reilly:That's right, it's an expansion.
Muckerman:So, they're just going to add, basically -- I mean, not "basically," it's not a basic project --
O'Reilly:Correct meif I'm wrong, but I think it tripledthe amount of oil that can go through it.
Muckerman:Yeah. Essentially, they'll just build additional pipelines next to the existing one. But then,you have to scratch your head about oil sands,becausethat's an expensive way to produce oil, it's super unclean, relatively speaking.
O'Reilly:Shelljust sold their sands up there.
Muckerman:Yeah, they'recompletely sold out. But somebody bought it. So somebody believes in it.
O'Reilly:That's what makes a market.[laughs]
Muckerman:That's right. If Shell had come out and said, "We want to sell this, but we can't," thenmaybe I would say,"Kinder Morgan, what the heck are you doing?"
O'Reilly:Do youremember before this stuff started,Whiting Petroleum, they were like, "We'regoing to put ourselves up for sale."
Muckerman:Yeah, and nobody bought. That was the doldrums. Looking back,somebody probably should have bought them,because they were offering for dirt cheapat the bottom of the barrel, in terms of oil prices.
O'Reilly:That's right.I'm going to do that.
Muckerman:[laughs] You're going to go buyWhiting Petroleum? Go back in time?
O'Reilly:I'm going to LBO that [do a leveraged buyout], I'mgoing to put down $8.[laughs]
Muckerman:But yeah, in terms of some producers,again, we can keep harping onEOGandPioneer, Permian leaders --
O'Reilly:I wrote about themtwo years ago, man,we need something new.[laughs]
Muckerman:There'snothing new to talk about. They're still the biggest and the best. They're the ones that areprobably going to increase their spending the most. When you look at that $25 billion number in capex that's going to increase over 2016 spending, about $15 billion of that is coming from U.S. producers.
Sean O'Reilly has no position in any stocks mentioned. Taylor Muckerman owns shares of ENB. The Motley Fool owns shares of and recommends ENB and Kinder Morgan. The Motley Fool owns shares of EOG Resources. The Motley Fool has a disclosure policy.