Joel Osteen on Morality's Place in Politics

" Republicans and Democrats are claiming that there is. And moral authority to what they're doing well they're saying what they're doing is right. Joining me now is the guy I just would be harder -- that -- lost in years the pastor of America's. Largest church in the Lakewood church and author of so many best sellers his latest. It's your time activate your thing to achieve your dreams and."

" Increase in -- Customer good to have -- great see you mom does anyone have a moral claim in the selection to. An office."

" I don't know -- that I know hot and -- believe this it."

" You know each of us are responsible for our own selves you know. Live like we -- to take care of our own selves up."

" I'm not sure I I think both sides have good intentions but. I'm not sure -- the --"

" Do you -- when things get very heated. And Nancy and political campaign says that he uses such a good and decent man and you're looking at these nasty ads and you're looking at. One ad portrays that -- the governor's challengers just fat loser and the other says well these -- and then on and on and on."

" What do you do. Well you know it's unfortunate I think people are passionate and unfortunately. And you know sometimes the negative. Anti war that you know I don't think it's you know -- time I believe in taking power load and them. Not speaking you know not taking things personally against each other wanting to attack when somebody believes in the record but. I don't know I don't think it's that don't think it means that the best in people."

" You don't want you decadent a lot of your your your books reverend and M this idea personal responsibility and then he would do so by the bootstraps and with the lord's help you can move on and and overcome whatever. What if you've been dealt. The reason why I'm asking you know in light of your book and everything else. What you make of the different mentality that seems to be group in the country now for better ill with the government can and will do that."

" Well you know -- think these people have different perspectives and that they they believe that the government is helping."

" Help people rise higher and do their part whereas you know the other side sees it it sees it differently."

" I believe what you said I don't know where us and them politically on it but that it's up to each one of us to look inside and do what if we can do. You know that the flip side is when we can help somebody else and we canoeing we can help everybody as a whole as a as a country I mean how would love to see everybody be able to have. Health care for everything and everything on every problem go away but I don't know what practical so let me ask your pastor when you hear the claim."

" health care is right. It is sacred right Americans. When unit. Now I don't know I'm not sure what I'm -- I believe it he comes back again to that. Individual person I don't I don't know it. You know. And and it technicals term. What that ideas I think we have a right to -- to take care of ourselves to be responsible. To do everything we can do to stay healthy and whole but. You know I'm I'm not sure sure what that. And hey I don't -- to switch you know in a very very tough sort of a box political blogs but. You do -- a lot of folks who -- all persuasions are probably better that serve them liberals CNN viewers fox excitement and interest. But but. In all serious is what. When we have this move toward bigger. And and its backers would argue a more inclusive protected government. Is there's some part of you as a as a as a man of god that says this. Worries that."

" Will you know what -- I'm probably a little bit different in that I probably don't spend a lot of time thinking about that has been focused most of my focus on."

" You know kinda help each individual and you did it but here's what I hear from family members -- pastor who can tell me. And I'm not going to buy that car and wait for the next cash for clunkers program I'm not going to buy that house I'm going to wait for the next credit program. I want to waits. For the government now."

" You know. I don't know you I don't know. -- I'm not in that those shoes of someone this that is waiting so I don't know why I hate to. Make a judgment where you know might be put somebody over I don't I don't know if it's the right thing. For the government probably not studied opened up on the."

" Yeah higher calling. DT you know though when you when you see the world as it is don't worry I know you you talk about. We all of this collective need help each other around and supplies to higher -- Look around and see you know we're doing it guys would just not doing."

" Well I'll probably more of an optimistic in you -- terms and has seen it. You know I -- the good of what's being done you know there is some you know some things that are not so good but I see people in. Comic our congregation people in other places that they are reaching out helping others and so. You know I'm probably biased in that I've seen this silver lining in everything but I seem to get on the there's a lot of things that are happening that. To deceive those wounded in the folks that are -- again. 200 pushing my luck with two."

" Would Jesus be closer. To a Democrat. Or republic. I don't want to touch that. -- I got in trouble I gotta get you in trouble it's very good seeing a Dawson it's your life the latest book and in an arsenal that is to sold millions and millions and millions. That's a very good bad guy known going to be struck by lightning and a citizen of but but you were very good sport trichet thinks that's facing you."