Red Ink Watch: Selling the Health Plan

" it looks like taxpayers middle class taxpayers are going to be digging deeper to pay for health reform. The Democrats plan to sell -- that class talent Dowdell a Democrat strategist found home alone consulting group Tara -- of the program. When you look at about this bill going through congress at the moment. They go to take 200 billion dollars a child and think that attacks on existing health insurance companies. They gonna take a 180 billion dollars of medical device makers of drug companies. That's going to be passed along to consumers. In my opinion that is a middle class tax hike. Can you say that's -- sell."

" I don't think it's in middle class tax hike because the companies will choose whether or not they'll pass that on to consumers but the reality is they'll be more people into the system. And it's more people are in the system that would generate more capital for all those companies as we get people covered. And it that coverage then they're then using a -- you just take the profits away from a -- that don't limit on them well when it okay -- profits that but it went benefit from having more people with health insurance because those people will start using those goods and services so people benefit from more people you take it off."

" And they will not the drug companies in the medical device makers they will not pass along that 180 billion dollars with the taxes that won't last long that the consumers."

" Well of course. The abrupt reversal prices will rise because they always that's what happens in this country but -- ability it will not be a middle class tax increase -- it will probably will not be a direct mail and let me just say something Obama's tax policies -- Obama's tax policies have been very positive. He passed the largest -- middle class tax. Deep crease. And in our nation's history and -- as part of the stimulus 13 of the stimulus with tax -- what was the -- one there is that your full ten bucks a month -- wasn't fourteen bucks a month in the backseat of a two week it depends it's on sliding -- it depends on how much you may."

" Good how about Nancy Pelosi putting on the table the VA to the -- attacks now backed is a middle class tax interest isn't well."

" You know we have that we do have to figure it I don't think that the middle class tax -- if that's specifically on the -- glass -- tanks but that everybody you know we have to figure out a way to pay for here and he had if they did then middle -- let me let me let me suggest that the accident did you let's not simply let's look at that -- lately let me address that now let me just some of the bad okay. That is all I care about trillion dollars on helped -- is that email. Our last half hour. Increase you have a V a TU taxing all products -- vessels as they go through the manufacturing chain of command of that you taxing and -- results. Everybody pays that tax in the middle. And -- the Fed is not that pat -- it's on the table by the middle class tax. It is the only -- it that because it hasn't passed yet. Let's talk about it at -- passage she wants it passed a similar period a middle class tax increase let's talk about what's happening now with -- here let's talk about what's happening now. The cost control 62% of the bankruptcies were people who were middle class. People will file bankruptcy due to medical bills are you telling me super Cinemark and you're telling me that went belly laugh heartily --"

" If you're telling me that what we -- taxes 200 billion dollars to the health insurance companies and what we at a 180 billion dollars of taxes on to the medical device makers and drug companies it will not pass along to consumers know it will be of resolved by those countries the companies and it will not."

" Yeah yeah. Anybody that's telling me that it's not going to be absorbed by that I those companies because the companies will be a big and I stated that companies are one to benefit. By birth to a more people being -- about the way for companies will get more. The winds more people could cost benefit -- habit of -- that you're just take it often right. We would have to get this problem that all the book is currently Palin then if they failed on the hope that I've been an easy but said he doesn't expect."

" People -- on the hook to pay those the extra people who come into the private health insurance market. They all they will have to get more money coming in and you will take it off them."

" There are still going liability from the we have still got -- liability to the now almost an inferno and then a pharmaceutical industry are the biggest recipient of government subsidies eyeball and tell me I've. Where else those subsidies. A freely and directly to the people ahead does the free lunch come full well how do you feel about it taking the until my math that's plus I think that's corporate governance popularly given subsidies every bit weather making its way and given them back -- repeated -- third -- Justin Lambert."

" You're telling them yeah -- if it's a fantasy land you telling me he can have an 829. Billion dollar entitlement program that will actually cut the deficit."

" That's a free lunch he doesn't anybody else did this CD talented nonpartisan. About baucus plan that reduce the death -- it doesn't."

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" At this CD Howe also doesn't need -- more prevention and we don't know I think very good care of myself my healthcare costs -- I do that because it makes it easier for me at the small business owner to a more important story. I take care but that's not where I think the."

" large part of the bill we ask you on the program what the democrats' strategy would be when America is faced with a middle class tax increase and you definitely was not an -- you very much and cut taxes middle -- acting pretty independent."

" Yes."