Christian Charities Feeling the Heat

" Now let's hit the -- is on the controversy ill health care reform. Amid all the -- jockeying over who gets taxed and who gets covered it doesn't. A huge battle over religion folks shaping up behind the scenes you need to know about this it's not just about abortion. Our next guest says health care sharing ministries will be crippled. By legislative reform James Lansbury is vice president of samaritan ministries. International. Mr. Lansbury thank you very much for joining us are happy hour I think you need to first explain to -- very briefly. What it is that -- health caring. Health care needs sharing oil ministry organization is our viewers understand what we're talking about."

" Certainly health care security ministries are they pretty. Uninsured non profit private patients that are doctors with a group of people and they relate to a standing together. -- those health care bills. Without using a cure much they've made the army have been building floor for centuries."

" these patients an assistant seems to me that singles have a price couples have a different rate."

" But I didn't they -- that directly to another family. Throughout the medical need to you know exactly where the money going -- it not being you administrative cost of building. They're building somewhere in the country."

" Accorsi -- profits well I think James is directly to the family that's him okay. And until James you know I I at this this issue itself underscores that they might think that we talked a lot about on the show and that is when the government gets involved it tends to squeeze out. In this case charity we often talk about the private sector's ability to come and can you walk us through just exactly how the bill is going to squeeze your ability to provide these services out."

" Certainly because they've -- all including individual insurance mandate -- because our ministries are -- her thoughts and those Cubans are going to wind up very well our members. After accusing people taken in northern -- ministers. For years we -- millions of dollars in medical leave the month and then they're in the poll by the government that in they have brought her to be sure."

" Sentence can also move on I with the abortion that's been happening behind the scenes there are some lawmakers even some Democrats are saying. It will we do this health care reform. We got made sure that the federal government in its public option plan that does come to fruition is not -- For abortions okay that's once cited the other sites as well hey wait a minute you said you don't want the government involved in making doctor patient decision. But yet now you're saying I'll we want the government not to pay for this but to pay for that not to pay for this had used all of that."

" Quite good bet that very difficult part about having a government often the first. There's no matter which way you like it's going to be politicized. Either one way or the other and I think that we need to make sure that taxpayer dollars and not 40%. -- the American pit heap of American the blast -- objective taxpayer dollars funding."

" James you know that they -- it. If you want to look out safe it's 510 years into the future and say that we were. To squeeze the government out and allow charities to try and come in and -- The need for health care for the poverty stricken and for sick children or whatever the case may be. -- the country better -- do you think we should have some sort. Of a social safety net provided by the government it's our. Is it sort of a degree thing that should have a problem with or is it the government being involved with healthcare whatsoever."

" I think ideally we're going to have to have. Some kind of social safety net to -- what we're -- but I think that I believe we find it doesn't happen through private security. We have -- security civil filling that gap or Medicare Medicaid and Medicare and they didn't come out and this -- for Medicare Medicaid. I think up the private sector caught unaware of the forty billion dollar unfunded liability sitting out there in the next few years. You're gonna police and court ultimately we didn't find a better way to do this."

" It stands pat. People I'm Bob and your system now and -- and but what happens if someone needs to be on god forbid chemotherapy for years and years and did it. Participants just have to keep writing checks."

" What -- that we have about a 100000 people nationwide involved in this kind of model. Certainly you have members who are having chemotherapy. Will be experimental treatment -- with one member who's been instrumental treatment. It's forward please request can't hurt them up -- now we've already public school work. 100000 dollars. Medical -- for."

" James Lansbury -- vice president samaritan ministries international thank you for joining us for happy hour thank you please keep buying."