BET Founder on Jackson

" Jackson might have recently had a problem making money and as an extensive spending yet but -- hear mine next -- not making history Robert Johnson as the founder. A black entertainment television. And he's among others who say that this is a guy went so far to be a crossover African American entertainer. That might have let another African American years related news and the politics so. Robert on. Michael made it possible. For fellow named Barack but it."

" I think Michael made it possible for people to accept. A culture that's different from day as a sound of music style. Add to that extent. When you have young people. From south north different countries of the world embracing a young black man because of his talent or is genius a case of Michael Jackson. I can see how you can extend that to. Barack Obama Tiger Woods where -- just some souls such superior talent. Can make people forget any kind of ratio. Division her attitude. Or pre presumption about another person it just overshadows everything and they become. A person -- themselves."

" Let me ask you about about that Robert because we talk to the -- about. You know African Americans who transcended their race. And that whether it it it's simplistic to say they were accepted by the white community or just enthralled. In the white community. Something happens he clicked in in a way that dead if you others had before and it is it all part of this process where African Americans. Were not only said in the in the entertainment industry where they were dominant. As well. But then into the -- the business leading the way for for folks like you and later on in politics for folks like. You know Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and ultimately Barack Obama."

" Well I think if you look back in and history -- Very talented African Americans have always for the most part lent their credibility. To him to movements and the broader black community. The civil rights movement -- populated by a lot of black stars who marched with doctor king and saying and and and donated money -- performances. The whole movement to end apart -- in Africa was led by stars who wanted to use their celebrity hood and urged people not to place Sun City. So musicians have always been a part of a movement. And I think Michael head is on movement it was a humanitarian. He was soft spoken he -- was born talent he he worship that to Alter of talent. He didn't take controversial positions but he led them anyways by doing humanitarian -- is using again. His unique talent so we are the world came out of that intelligent."

" But you know they're -- lose your right -- there's a lot of good but then in the end the rap against him is he just weird it out and got bizarre. And I'm wondering for all the progress in good deeds he did in your eyes. Ahead of that -- is actions and behavior. In those final years. Destroy that."

" Chris the most misunderstood. Person on the planet. Someone who never had around him that kind of support base that kind of people who could tout their -- had no clothes I remember where we would talk to Michael talked to Michael. Agent Michael Michael would do things for you but he hated to be asked to do on the always wanted to do him. And so in he hated to be disappointed and hurt. And so I think some of that kept him as a recluse. However when he got in trouble because of some of his trial things he would he would call up and say can Bob can you put a party -- form me. I want to meet some people in the community who support me. And we would -- party he'd still be she guy when he would come and but he would do it. And so he he had some. You know emotions that is alive that just kept them you know from being able to grant out and reach people and at the same time take advise."

" All that stuff you're being polite and decent and not speaking ill of the dead and as is as classy as you are and that's of that that I'm not surprised. But all this other stuff you don't think harnesses and -- about."

" That you said it earlier in your opening he will be probably bigger in death than he was in life. Because what you see here from them and live what generations to come -- here -- will be his music. -- they would not go back in and revisit all -- the other stuff. And his music will be played. Long long after all of that stuff is gone then and that's what happens they get. And it and to me that's really going to be the measure of him he'll have to deal I mean whoever his ultimate. Judges he would deal with that but I think the judgment on this earth -- that he did there's never been a -- I know for me personally. Michael made sure that when ever a video videos was played and he his videos was so huge that could change your programming model. That we always got. A copy of his video -- I remember cause our program department think guy did we get Michael's video because. MTV would come in and use their money abide exclusively that's what I always insisted that we got that video. All right that that may that that get get BET -- parallel would MTV in the early years yeah he did okay for yourself to Robert -- saying thank you very much. Nearby."