Creating an Open Course

" Not a prison on his -- before right that's 2002. -- Now does that focus attention on it I mean it virtually every hole was shot some commentator will say. Something about the course either good or bad right so it does focus on your work yes and the players sometimes complain about a whole were there it's -- set up with a golf course but generally loved a face like that political back is what do they think about one when tiger approach he said he was there. Today for what it would have a what do you think about and I think of Bethpage black in holes that you redesigned. It's it's look at that they are some skull -- scary Dunbar will have the deepest bunkers probably and you have opened his view that the biggest bunkers. And I think tiger than honest golfer tiger has all the shots that's why won their last time that's twelve probably -- again. -- just one of the memorial. Everything she thought target than what he did last year the court for redesigned accord by it was unbelievable. Well when he did a memorial was was the most it's a typical tiger of that where he's he's down by five or six shots. And then come back yet -- greats friend shot that. And the land holy to parties in a -- to win. How dependent is the game. Of Tiger Woods of a person a personality like Tiger Woods and cannot survive. In the same. Form. Well over private sector he's no longer we're hoping that those from the young players are going to -- a few majors and gain some competition for fiber right now tiger is what Provo fall about again I can ask."

" About re designed by the way because you are known as he opened doctor I mean you you actually do redesign on the basis of the problems that crop up from here. From here there are you bothered when people say courses did you design need to be re design and someone I don't ever recall that question."

" So let's say you have never considered going back people changing their pilot back contains both paid for this year on new vetted but doing arts and -- bed at six bunkers. With things of green surface. We put some cross bunkers and so we've changed who cut I mean it's for somebody to come up to reach -- thing and I I think you needed that takes a lot of guts who does that the guys -- lose. I definitely guys that he's in with you --"

" Many changes that have a evolved over the last thirty years better Bob better clubs that are bags. And that is the size and strength and conditioning. Of the new athletes the new Tiger Woods if you take a look at Tiger Woods. And a guy like necklace I mean. Tiger is much bigger much stronger how is that. Going to affect your business. -- essentially -- and you have to redesign the course. Every couple years as soon as they get bigger stronger. "

" That's very true I thought we had to redesign the -- we just redesigned Atlanta athletic club we're doing work for people thing for the PGA this year. Because the ball's going farther and we've got to meet the demands more difficult. Especially -- let's talk a little bit about you for those who don't know your history course your dad was who is she one of the greats in the same field. Did you did you feel like you were pigeonholed into doing what you're doing from the time you were born her. Didn't we give it some you went to Yale he had kind of a broad liberal arts education but. How did you decide to do what said the decision. Well every vacation we took we traveled to where is building a golf course so I'm into the rubbed off on the in my mother wanted to go to college to get an education -- would have -- Much more -- life but in essence I think those program to become a golf course part of that we -- disappointed at all about batteries that what you wear your real passion. While when I became a golf course -- there's no money in it I mean so it had to be the passion. Now there's architecture generally is is one of the least paid professions as one of the poorest paid professions around. Right we'll golf course architectures I feel a little bit better. Because its name recognition it's if you've played golf it's an interactive design that's not a passive you know plan makers that's right and hey they're."

" What is happening the economy is affecting everything golf is kind of an expensive sports like skiing a little better others reasonably expensive sports. What's happening in a golf course -- a lot of courses New Jersey. That were built in the search. How they deal. But -- fun Larry -- that affected by it the most. And what's happened on Wall Street. However in other parts of the country golf is still doing very well with winner of Florida they have more rounds this winter than they did last of this film interest. It's just discretionary income. And a good thing is land is cheaper. So that might might help you when you're when you're talking about expanding courses were creating new wins. He can get amid a relative bargain compared to five or six years ago -- we're doing a lot of remodeling work now because I think the cost of construction is less. -- contractors are really competing for the work so that's a good time to do the -- restoration and redesign of golf course has the has the difference between the amateur and pro gotten bigger. -- I know what some of the courses I can see the to championship city but it's getting it's almost have to have -- monorail to get through it. Is it or is it kinda staying steady over the last. Thirty years. No live at the ball farther no -- dismissing the advances neighborhood. We don't have the flame speed the -- we worked out every day and their swing speed of -- as far as. That almost want to write but the average -- offered another swing speed that's."

" What we need to forward these forward. By the way you can tell he's he's sort of a pro golfer here I've just staring -- admiration and all your knowledge about golf but. I want to pull back in just look at the at through the way you do the design mean there's no. Form of architecture that is so closely tied into the contours of the land and how -- how at all how do you when you start. Are you do you see a piece of land and say gee that's a great place for golf course or does somebody tell -- if I want to golf course here how does it all begins. Well before the depression that's really how all the golf courses were built on natural sites because they didn't have the equipment to build on that we've got to make mole hills -- mountains now we can actually go to properties that -- is suitable because we better. -- equipment. But the great golf course what Beth page or Nantucket or. Ocean Faris our natural ground and that's they look like the old classical off -- feel wonderful challenge though to see a spit of land that has slide. You know places for natural bunkers and section you can you can picture it in your mind's -- even before it's built."

" Now what's right and knew when you look at Bethpage there in the open next week. You'll see how they use the land truth optimal they had so many acres of land they depict the best little holes and the all natural awful and I assure injured Zion course now you've designed how many 10000 courses -- a hundred under point five and try to time. What's what's funny and what's 126 what's in it for yeah. You get well a lot of it's self employed do and I -- just redid Mauna Kea in Hawaii were asking them nice I help my father from the beginning and I read as I did and I was kind of instinct gone -- redesigning congressional for 2011. -- when my father of course is we just redesigned it. Twenty years ago we're going to make -- more things is now so. And I think if the people -- in the business and the French if you make and along that makes money. Seating costs can be healthy gone forward. Well golf is a sport that gets in your blood. And honest and if you become an avid golfer. You're you're gonna stick with -- and there are a lot of places where the -- a golf is not that expensive Bethpage black is there's a good example court finds good examples so. There -- other clubs that are very expensive than those are maintaining. That members right now founding though it. Recently got a rap but I I just can't that's what's your favorite course is one euros or somebody else's. We'll figure course that I like the plays by inmates don't have the couple Long Island because it has. Some he -- hole that has some ocean holes that has some -- polls some sort of gut every combination of type of golf hole imaginable you have to go to Scotland. It up those column in my efforts of a lot of course from the states that. Are almost like Scotland out through what Reese congratulations. Go back after the open -- and capital Dexia."