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AIG, Take a Page From UAW

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AIG, Take a Page From UAW

Published: Wed, 18 Mar 2009

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" Robert what -- all the talk of AIG. And it's bonus contract obligation we can look at the auto makers example. Who were pressured to renegotiate union contracts in order to survive."

" I'm sorry why couldn't AIG executives do the Senate renegotiate their bogus contracts. Before they paid out these large sums let's bring in Rogers ever maker author of how Americans. Can buy American. Roger from the star. We have seen the US auto worker in this generated for making seventy grand if -- that's what it even visit and hear these guys are getting millions in bonus payments and everybody's taking it to congress but how is it that they were able to force auto workers and frankly white collar workers in the auto industry to take all kinds of changes in their worker contracts. Get this it involves so much. Push back."

" Well this is indicative of the treatment that we. The way that we treat -- auto makers compared to somebody like AIG and -- same kind of the -- unequal treatment the US auto makers get -- before lawmakers. I mean we allow. -- South Korea and Japan import unlimited cards in the US were locked out of their market GM and Ford routinely have to pay billions of dollars in health care. Further all workers and retirees words at the Japanese pick out offer from their auto makers so what's is on equal treatment and this is just another example where we break. The US auto makers over the coals for every penny we propose to give to them that we treat AIG as everybody has seen quite differently why. Why do you think that is. I don't know why it is that seems like we have this disdain for manufacturing in this country. Benefits there's any term that the American public has become very familiar way off. Lately it's the ripple effect of Roger let me get -- and -- second Roger do you think that there might be I mean we know that. You know the Wall Street was well represented the last treasury as well represented this treasury do you think there's some data conspiracy among bankers here that. To help out each other and and ignore the car companies. I don't know if it's a conspiracy but I I just think we've turned to a more service oriented economy -- we turn our backs on manufacturing. And the fact is for every manufacturing job we have -- supports for other jobs. In the service industry you'll have a ripple effect between one and two jobs you know we have to have a US auto industry in this in this country. We have to have an American company in every category of industry in the United States. If GM Ford and Chrysler fail we don't have an auto industry anymore but -- AIG fails we will still have a US based insurance industry -- right. Because there are a lot of other insurance companies out there."

" Just wondering you know they've been hearing history -- we keep hearing oh unskilled auto workers you know last I checked they actually can make hybrid complicated engines that are worth something versus these credit default swaps how much anger is out there on behalf of the auto -- right now that they're looking at this."

" Well I'm sure have a lot of anger because there's a lot of instability about their jobs they don't know what's gonna happen there they've seen their reduced there there. Pay cut I mean not solely the pilot who -- The other airplane on the Hudson you know he said look -- my pay has been cut 40% might pensions been eliminated and we look at pensions for stability but yet we're willing to cut them and throw it into an unstable stock market and our writers Sarah -- Roger and."

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of property right here our top stories of the day of course General Motors . I think you're exactly right so. All the -- GM obviously -- top story economic wise and for the for the nation as all of it certainly you know that's. It jumps out may not be the biggest market moving story but clearly yet General Motors site and we've been expecting -- things to get heated as we got down the wire and certainly it has been an
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which I guess well. If any -- that speaks to the situation General Motors and if if nothing else that your production before but the the idea now that did deals in place supposedly with the
things up you know I I'm not so sure it does. Look General Motors going to probably file bankruptcy that's no secret everybody expects that to happen the question is how quickly can -- and it's not as if GM going to emerge from bankruptcy some new form of General Motors is what's going to emerge. Kind of like in that the movie alien with a creature comes out of the stomach. You
there. Jeff that I heard -- for madam when news reporting from. General Motors headquarters and people dealing in reality here you can I think the words are just use we didn't have a choice and
found -- we retired in our board -- were even talking about General Motors is an investment. Talk about its common stock and but you know this could be as soon as and you know some bond investment whatever the case may be what would you take into account. Coming out of this when it you know assuming General Motors will be publicly traded company again it'll be new shares issued is most likely the way it'll play out and and people you know that company will most likely issued debt and what what would you take into account when considering. The investment in in General Motors .
this as a very safe investment Jenna went through some statistics about General Motors market share in the 1950s and what have you. And now if you save rebuilding that trust in General Motors as a corporation. Wow and how long it'll take.
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members there's represented and Jeff gets into some of those. Plans for General Motors but if you know anybody that -- said. What it is auto plants down south that is from foreign automakers be great
about that we were you were mentioning earlier about the difference in General Motors . Market share between 1950 right today and we have a -- guys we should put this chart up that our good friend Charlie grace and out on the board and the minute. About the difference in GM's market cap. In the last ten years it really it is absolutely staggering to think about General Motors -- sixteen billion dollar company just in the year 2060. Billion. And worth 700 million as we're talking to you today seven
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