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Published: Mon, 9 Mar 2009
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" Well forget about Iraq or Afghanistan we've got a nation in turmoil much closer much much closer to ride to south of the border growing drug related violence. Has now become gang violence in Mexico. Spreading that southern Texas he -- raising some very -- questions about our own security here so is it time to stop talking about your money. And time to start talking about protecting your life with me now is -- her."
" Then is this he's a senior fellow at the Milken institute you know until I was looking at some of these images coming in from. Mexico. You'd think he'd be looking at. You know Third World. You know dictatorship this in disarray. Yet Mexico's clearly broken -- And in fact it needs to be fixed and we can fix that we can help because it is in -- sorry sorry shape. Is this going and we -- we made a big deal years ago illegal immigration analysts but this what you're saying is even a fraction true. And whose value re edit this before anyone. You're going to see a lot more of the stuff frank while we have 6000. Murders in Mexico yesterday already well all last year all related to drugs. And were ahead of that pace this happen what made it -- certain -- as a nation -- Mexico became the transshipment center of the world for drugs you have drugs that are. Grown in Thailand Myanmar in Jamaica Columbia they all go to Mexico when did that started -- agreed and a lot of it started with the breakup of the Cali cartel in the Colombian drug rings. And present that business in Columbia than move nor move move north -- read day in Columbia did a great job. It's -- work in progress but it's a great job Mexico welcomed the drug lords because Mexico some broken corrupt country. All right what do we do to stop. Well we can put a lot of pressure on Mexico and we have to with 6000 murders. And countless. Policemen who were paid off judges who were paid off. This is spreading into the United States because. American gangs in cities like San Diego Los Angeles and even Canadian gangs are linked up to the drug what -- going to pressure them so what -- what do we do stay in if we -- the commerce across the border for three days that would bring Mexico to its -- We have to do something dramatic like that to make president Calderon know that we mean business. All right if we don't what happens well if we don't lose the violence is likely to spread into the United States. Gangs that are American gangs are likely to get to. Have become part of the drug cartels and what we're going to have an awful time cleaning that wanna let's say Nancy it's tough on this and does what you read they did in Columbia what's to stop those same gangs. And these same drug awards to -- further north writing here in the US and I. Well they can do what we have to look at what are the causes the the number one cause in Mexico. Is corrupt. Showed police are on both sides of the game they're shooting each other because some of work for the drug -- some work for the government. So that has to be cleaned up we don't fortunately have those problems in the United States but don't think you'll rise. In and it it economically distressed environment wouldn't -- we Reba is the gift of Columbia was improving both the economy -- and -- with. With getting you know the drug lords out. We have. Hurt economy who have absolutely we that's a fertile ground for. Problems like drugs and gangs but we also have. Law enforcement that works for the most part carts that work they don't have those things in Mexico. Courts are paid off frequently there are transparency commissions in Mexico where the commissioners are afraid. To bring up for charges the drug lords or people who were taking bribes that's not a system that's going to work you have this Mexicans that it marriages. Left under under threat the if you don't write his family's living in El Paso because he's afraid of their safety -- we have problems in the United States but we don't have Mexico level problems what."
" Got it to the level there is no word so violent though I was always so people like -- is that would has always been a drug from here it's good it's accelerated. -- the bloody violence but the indiscriminate kidnappings of American tourists and and and foreign tourists and anyone -- is deemed to have a little bit of money. Is now -- progress well."
" That the reason is that -- police protecting people in less you pay the police you don't get surface and and that's a real problem in -- the very. Foundation. Justice in the -- this centigrade that's right I'm in the Pentagon's worried Mexico's going to become a failed state. In some ways it's already a failed state and that and that's going to have profound implications for united so we -- word about Venezuela. -- recent. Worry more about Mexico yeah we we need to worry about Mexico because we get most of our oil. Much of our food much of our fruit lot of commerce with Mexico lot of investment. A lot of Mexico investment in the United States we have to worry about Mexico and take a strong hand. Well all right Joe --"
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